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Poster: He Live's Date: Jul 11, 2008 12:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: First Jammed Out Playing In The Band?

no, that;s too early -- but from the moment keith joined the band Playin' started to stretch out and the seeds are planted as early as 12/14-15/71, through the end of the year and through the January west coast gig....


but it think the BLOOM TAKES place at the Academy of Music run before they embarked on the tour of Europe -- where every version had the extra sauce that made the tune such an amazing portal for the next , well..... 3? years?.... we can debate that point........

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Jul 11, 2008 10:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: First Jammed Out Playing In The Band?

I may not have been clear in my post. I believe the 11/7/71 PITB is the first version I have heard where the idea of extending this song began to germinate. If you listen to the versions from February through October the song was pretty anemic musically. On this 11/7/71 show after the main verses the band begins to really lay into the musical interlude between verses with much passion. It is really attack oriented in the way the lead guitar part links the verses. It was not that long until this portion began to stretch way out and we begin hearing 20, 30 minute versions of the song. With Keith's piano in the mix the dynamics began to stretch where there was room for the quieter spaces to give contrast. You can't just say "no thats too early". These things develop gradually and my position is that around this time period of November '71 is where I believe this song began to grow legs. I wanted someone to point out a version that could be the "first' version where the song became more fully formed, not dismiss the suggestion out of hand as "too early". I respect your opinion, but I wanted to explore the genesis of this jam. Maybe March '72 is the next step, but by April '72 in Europe the baby was born. I guess I will go back and check the December '71 shows again.

This post was modified by SkyDawg on 2008-07-12 05:49:34

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Poster: He Live's Date: Jul 12, 2008 9:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: First Jammed Out Playing In The Band?

you didn't read my reply beyond the first sentence....

thanks for spelling it out for me.... but i thought i was pretty clear. don't be so easily offended.... if you really want to GO DEEP, look out for the main ten jam.


now sherlock, tell me why they seemed to regress once it became playin'? if you listen to this jam, i think the answer is obvious.....






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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Jul 12, 2008 11:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: First Jammed Out Playing In The Band?

No offense taken at all! I was just trying to get some ideas on the songs development and felt you rejected my idea out of hand. I enjoy your posts very much! As for the Main Ten all I can say is 11/8/70. Yours truly and still searchin' for the sound,
sherlock

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